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Title: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 09, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
Ok so I have figured out the backwards way they designed the dedicated server for MW3 and have started making config files for each mode.

With that in mind the only things I know of for sure right now are 1 of the 3 maps will be Dom, and all matches will be Hardcore mode.

If anyone has map suggestions, good/bad, mode suggestions etc please post so we can take that info into account.  We will be testing and finializing the server settings etc this Saturday so post soon.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Rock8104 on November 09, 2011, 04:29:36 PM
I have been playing a little HC today and it seems very Over tuned. One shot with any automatic weapon is a kill. I compare MW regular to BF3 HC mode and MW HC to One Shot kill mode. No aiming just pray and Spray. If others that have the game can give a little feed back let me know what you think.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 09, 2011, 04:36:01 PM
Played both and prefered hardcore myself as did Ronster.   Would like to hear others opnions though.    

Also the default health on hardcore is miniscule.  I can change the health setting to normal, something indetween and miniscule.   So the issue is health and dying fast that can be change easy but keeping all the other hardcore things like hud etc.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Rock8104 on November 09, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
I do agree there. I like all the other options with HC but I think Health need raised to mid way b/w Norm and HC and Wep Damage needs lowered.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Cra2hgirl on November 09, 2011, 06:13:53 PM
I've only played on the ranked servers which is peer-to-peer, and HC with the lag sucks.   I haven't tried a dedicated server yet as I don't like to play on the unranked servers, but obviously this will be the case for the LAN so maybe HC won't suck as bad.

I think domination should definitely be in the rotation.  I haven't played all the game types yet, but I also liked "Kill Confirmed".  I do NOT think Team Deathmatch woudl be a good tourny game type.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Rock8104 on November 09, 2011, 08:13:11 PM
I agree about domination and KC. Maybe make the third map TDM or Demolition.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: shocka on November 09, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
Barebones....... Only thing it should be for a tournament....


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: myndmelt on November 09, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Will there be a server for non tournament play? Just wondering?  I haven't tried hardcore mode yet. I will have to try it out.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 09, 2011, 11:00:38 PM
The mw3 server will be running all day, once we get to tournament time it will switch to tournament for that time then back on for free play.

During free play I will have it rotating game types and maps.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Ronster on November 10, 2011, 12:07:15 AM
diffenitly hc for sure and domination and probably a tdm and maybe a demolition would be good. no kill streaks just weapons


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Action on November 10, 2011, 03:46:33 AM
Well you definitely should have Kill Confirmed instead of TDM.  It would be silly not to have the new game mode in the tourney.  I would recommend it be Dom, KC and Search and Destroy (not in any particular order).  You don't want Demolition because of the often chance of a tie.  Hard core would be fine since it is not peer 2 peer.  And if it plays just like COD4 should be ok.  P2P HardCore is just a lag/die fest.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Rock8104 on November 10, 2011, 07:23:21 AM
Taking the Kill Streaks out of a tourney is limiting the game as much as just giving the starting weapons. But I do agree Kill Streaks are OP in tourney play.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Action on November 10, 2011, 09:52:11 AM
Ok I found a reason that made MW3 worth the 60 bucks -- TEAM DEFENDER!!!  That game mode is absolutely one of the best modes.  It is not like capture the flag but there is one flag and your team must pick it up and hold it to get points.  This needs to definitely be part of the tourny. 

So I suggest Domination, Team Defender, and Kill Confirmed.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Cra2hgirl on November 10, 2011, 10:03:59 AM
Taking the Kill Streaks out of a tourney is limiting the game as much as just giving the starting weapons. But I do agree Kill Streaks are OP in tourney play.

I agree, kill streaks is part of what makes the game at least a little fun, without them, you have another camper strike type game.  


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Cra2hgirl on November 10, 2011, 10:04:29 AM
Ok I found a reason that made MW3 worth the 60 bucks -- TEAM DEFENDER!!!  That game mode is absolutely one of the best modes.  It is not like capture the flag but there is one flag and your team must pick it up and hold it to get points.  This needs to definitely be part of the tourny. 

So I suggest Domination, Team Defender, and Kill Confirmed.

I have to admit, Team Defender was fun.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: myndmelt on November 10, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
I like team defender - but not for a tournament, and no the kill streaks should not be allowed. I say keep it simple.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Action on November 11, 2011, 01:12:21 AM
Yeah as much as I can't stand when someone sends a fleet of choppers I think taking kill streaks out would take a piece of the game away.  Especially with MW3 having more than damaging kill streaks.  The support kill streak set is really good for the team for example.  If anything allow those and the specialized streaks.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Cyphis on November 11, 2011, 12:54:48 PM
Can't you take out what you want?  What if we did only killstreaks for items that did no damage to anyone?  IE. UAV's...Ballistic Vests...Counter UAV's...etc.  What do you all think about that?


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: DaRKaMuS on November 11, 2011, 07:08:50 PM
You guy are hosting a wm3 random teams hardcore and have not thought about the under average players that will go 2-17 in the game.  What ever game type you choose should be the the regular format for that reason alone . One person can ruin the game in hardcore setting . Plus we are playing for tickets not the CPL and big cash.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 11, 2011, 07:24:46 PM
We always run hardcore mode in FPS games, we have been doing that with COD4 since NeXus LAN 1.   As for teams that is why we ask people to rank themselves so that we when we random out the teams we take all the say above avaerage and random them out over the teams then the next lvl down etc so 1 team does not end up with a stacked team due to pure random chance.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: DaRKaMuS on November 12, 2011, 02:35:59 AM
You missing the point those players can and will loose the game for you in hardcore settings but in regular tdm etc they have a better chance of getting a higher score.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Cyphis on November 12, 2011, 04:45:10 AM
I don't know how you can say that with random teams like our format.  Teams should even out unless people blantantly lie about their skill level, which may happen.  But I dont see how one person can ruin it for everyone. 


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Action on November 12, 2011, 06:14:51 AM
You missing the point those players can and will loose the game for you in hardcore settings but in regular tdm etc they have a better chance of getting a higher score.
We have done it this way at everyone one of our LANS.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Cra2hgirl on November 12, 2011, 06:18:10 AM
It really doesn't matter which one we play in the tournament.  But, I think what he is saying is that MW3 HC is like one shot one kill, and so newer people have no chance of survival, but in regular mode, they have more of a fighting chance.

I have only  played HC on ranked servers and most of the time it is the person with the best ping that wins.... usually, whoever is hosting the game.  If you lag, you die.  You're dead before the person even registers on your screen.  It probably won't be as bad on dedicated server, but it's still one shot-one kill.



Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 12, 2011, 02:10:25 PM
As I have said we are going to use HC but change the health to standard so we get the changes HUD etc but not the paper thin health to avoid the one shot kill kinda thing.  Course the HC's I have played on it too me 3 bullets to kill a person sure one spread kills but not just 1 bullet.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: tetsuo on November 12, 2011, 03:59:19 PM
I do agree there. I like all the other options with HC but I think Health need raised to mid way b/w Norm and HC and Wep Damage needs lowered.
I will have to disagree with this, considering how many hit markers I get sometimes. Also, about players dying too fast, its not our fault how fast people die. Thats not because its HC , its because players run and gun aimlessly with no consideration. Just a thought.
I dont game for fun. LOL!


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: DaRKaMuS on November 12, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
As I have said we are going to use HC but change the health to standard so we get the changes HUD etc but not the paper thin health to avoid the one shot kill kinda thing.  Course the HC's I have played on it too me 3 bullets to kill a person sure one spread kills but not just 1 bullet.

Thats it and beside that Hc is a camp fest . How do you take you self off the list for the tournament?


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Action on November 12, 2011, 05:37:21 PM
As I have said we are going to use HC but change the health to standard so we get the changes HUD etc but not the paper thin health to avoid the one shot kill kinda thing.  Course the HC's I have played on it too me 3 bullets to kill a person sure one spread kills but not just 1 bullet.
Uhm your going to use standard health?  That does not make much sense for HC?   I understand maybe one or two shots but standard?  That sometimes is a full clip.  If your going to do that just us standard settings altogether or am I missing something here?  


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 12, 2011, 06:32:52 PM
Well when I said standard I meant the middle value.  There is Full, middle and miniscule.  I am not going to use miniscule


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 12, 2011, 06:35:44 PM
Before taking names off, why doesnt everyone wait until we finialize the settings today from testing the server.    Nothing is in stone until later today/tonight when we post.


Title: Re: MW3 Settings....
Post by: Renegade on November 13, 2011, 06:54:18 AM
I did take you off the list Dark.  If you wish to re-add let me know if the system wont let you.